i was wondering if IRC is too dificult for many people to use and learn, so we could maybe put a java client on a page so you don't have to download mIRC and all that crap which can become tedious if you just want to talk every once in awhile. if you google java irc client it came up with a few things that look promising IMO. right now the current IRC channel has about 5 regular visitors. the server is much more reliable than it was before and isn't being attacked all the time like before. the server is irc.gamesurge.net if anybody forgot and the channel is #forzacentral.